EPIM on Linux
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steve_k2400
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Re: EPIM on Linux
I'm getting the newsletter for some 20 years... Could that be?
Long, long time ago, I can't remember when, I installed Essential Pim on windows and subscribed to the newsletter.
As I was fed up with windows (7 back then) I switched to Linux (Manjaro) and never came back.
But one thing on Linux is still a major problem: email clients. I'm currently using BetterBird and testing BlueMail.
Both are far from perfect.
So, I keep reading your newsletter and keep wondering why still stuck on Windows?
A very powerful mail and PIM client but useless for an ever growing part of people.
Windows 11 obviously did all the "right" things to convince people: enough is enough.
All the described workarounds here are just that. More or less working, complicated workarounds.
Especially on rolling releases like Arch (Manjaro is based on Arch) an update quickly breaks the fragile Wine/Crossover/Bottle installation and maintenance becomes a painful hassle.
So, at the end, there is only one real way: native Linux app. I'm absolutely sure, Epim as native Linux app would be an instant success. All over the world governments (local/global) and companies are considering our doing the switch to Linux. Epim would be a game changer for them.
Just think about it...
Long, long time ago, I can't remember when, I installed Essential Pim on windows and subscribed to the newsletter.
As I was fed up with windows (7 back then) I switched to Linux (Manjaro) and never came back.
But one thing on Linux is still a major problem: email clients. I'm currently using BetterBird and testing BlueMail.
Both are far from perfect.
So, I keep reading your newsletter and keep wondering why still stuck on Windows?
A very powerful mail and PIM client but useless for an ever growing part of people.
Windows 11 obviously did all the "right" things to convince people: enough is enough.
All the described workarounds here are just that. More or less working, complicated workarounds.
Especially on rolling releases like Arch (Manjaro is based on Arch) an update quickly breaks the fragile Wine/Crossover/Bottle installation and maintenance becomes a painful hassle.
So, at the end, there is only one real way: native Linux app. I'm absolutely sure, Epim as native Linux app would be an instant success. All over the world governments (local/global) and companies are considering our doing the switch to Linux. Epim would be a game changer for them.
Just think about it...
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bobmac1547
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Re: EPIM on Linux
I also agree but I'm too old to switch to Linux so I'm going to have to stick with Windows much to my dismay
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@bobmac1547
Hi. I'm past 75. But I go into Linux (Mint Cinnamon). Still learning. But it's really not so difficult and this version ist close zu Windows. Give it a try
(I'm still on Win10, have installed Win11 on Friends Computer. I hate it
. Working/experimenting on a separate Computer with Linux. Good luck and greetings from Switzerland.
Hi. I'm past 75. But I go into Linux (Mint Cinnamon). Still learning. But it's really not so difficult and this version ist close zu Windows. Give it a try
(I'm still on Win10, have installed Win11 on Friends Computer. I hate it
Win10 and also on my way to manage Linux Mint
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I'm past 82 and my health is not the greatest. I've got so many things on my plate right now that I can't possibly tackle a new OS. It's not that I don't want to, it's just a matter of priorities. As you know, it's something that we have to do as we get older.past 75
Also, having used windows since the early days of Windows 286 and 386, I've got too much time energy money and experience invested into windows to quit at this point. They've got me right where they want me: by the cojone
greetings from Oregon USA
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Re: EPIM on Linux
I, for one, would like to see all users always happy with what they're using, but... in reality, I've unfortunately lost count of how many times I've read complaints about "being forced" to use Windows, but at the same time needing to use programs that currently only exist for Windows (instead than i.e. Linux or Mac). I fear this isn't an easy task, nor likely even possible. I imagine if such a thing were easily feasible, it would have already been done.
Perhaps the wisest approach is to find out the right balance and decide whether it's easier for each individual to use the program they need (can't do without?) or definitely abandon the environment they hate much, for whatever reason, and chose other tools under the different enviroment..
Just my two cents and my very humble opinion.
Perhaps the wisest approach is to find out the right balance and decide whether it's easier for each individual to use the program they need (can't do without?) or definitely abandon the environment they hate much, for whatever reason, and chose other tools under the different enviroment..
Just my two cents and my very humble opinion.
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steve_k2400
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Re: EPIM on Linux
Porting a windows software to a different OS is in deed not an easy task. It was easy some decades ago but then windows started to introduce all kind of dynamic libraries and NET frameworks and all kinds of garbage which makes it really hard.
Have you ever wondered why are windows programs so huge? Wheras Linux software is much smaller and takes up much less space. Runs faster with less RAM needed?
It's all because of the library garbage Windows needs.
Every time they need a new function, instead of neatly including it in previous libraries and making sure that both older and newer software can use it, they introduce a new library version. Then they mess up the code, introduce bugs, need update, new library...
Microsoft software is the prime example of badly written code.
When others write software for windows, they need to be aware of all this mess in their code and that makes it really hard to adapt the software to a cleaner os.
You have to decide what is your functions and what is relaying on a windows library and then try to find a corresponding open source library or write your own.
It's time consuming and time is money...
Have you ever wondered why are windows programs so huge? Wheras Linux software is much smaller and takes up much less space. Runs faster with less RAM needed?
It's all because of the library garbage Windows needs.
Every time they need a new function, instead of neatly including it in previous libraries and making sure that both older and newer software can use it, they introduce a new library version. Then they mess up the code, introduce bugs, need update, new library...
Microsoft software is the prime example of badly written code.
When others write software for windows, they need to be aware of all this mess in their code and that makes it really hard to adapt the software to a cleaner os.
You have to decide what is your functions and what is relaying on a windows library and then try to find a corresponding open source library or write your own.
It's time consuming and time is money...
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ablamis23
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naturalmente hai ragione. But since maybe almost 20 years, I'm using EPIM every day. It almost is a diary too. It fit since years my needs (but not using the mail-part, for that I have Thunderbird also from the beginning on. And that program runs perfect with Linux.)
I have tried different possibilities to run EPIM in Linux. 90% of it is working fine. Once I can get it working 100%, I will immediately switch to Linux. I have other programs in Win, which do not run under Linux, but found alternatives.
"Never change a winning horse". I totally agree. But I will change the surface, the horse is on!
Win10 and also on my way to manage Linux Mint
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bobmac1547
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So very true!steve_k2400 wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2026 9:19 pm Microsoft software is the prime example of badly written code.
Check out Steve Gibson (https://www.grc.com) for the very best Windows software ever. Small, tight, fast, and bug-free...
Oh, yes, it's all written in assembler!
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